May 16, 2004

Copper Green, Fear Up Harsh, the Allah Factor

You've probably read or heard about Sy Hersh's latest bombshell:

According to interviews with several past and present American intelligence officials, the Pentagon’s operation, known inside the intelligence community by several code words, including Copper Green, encouraged physical coercion and sexual humiliation of Iraqi prisoners in an effort to generate more intelligence about the growing insurgency in Iraq. A senior C.I.A. official, in confirming the details of this account last week, said that the operation stemmed from Rumsfeld’s long-standing desire to wrest control of America’s clandestine and paramilitary operations from the C.I.A.
The Pentagon denied Hersh's report—calling it so much bullshit, more or less—but the WaPo has a similar and document-based account:
According to the plan [to interrogate a Syrian jihadist who refused to talk], interrogators needed the assistance of military police supervising his detention at the prison, who ordinarily play no role in interrogations under Army regulations. First, the interrogators were to throw chairs and tables in the man's presence at the prison and "invade his personal space."

Then the police were to put a hood on his head and take him to an isolated cell through a gantlet of barking guard dogs; there, the police were to strip-search him and interrupt his sleep for three days with interrogations, barking and loud music, according to Army documents. The plan was sent to Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez.

But the fact that a plan for such intense and highly organized pressure was proposed by Col. Thomas M. Pappas -- a senior military intelligence officer in Iraq who took his job at the insistence of a general dispatched from the Pentagon -- suggests a wider circle of involvement in aggressive and potentially abusive interrogations of Iraqi detainees, encompassing officers higher up the chain of command, than the Army has previously detailed.

Remarkably awful stuff, and at this point, the war between intelligence and Defence has reached a pretty fevered pitch—they're both putting statements out there that contradict each other so thoroughly that one or both of them must be lying. I'd say that thus far Donald Rumsfeld's been far more successful in waging the war against US intelligence than he has against terror.

Before I've said that I thought Donald Rumsfeld ought to be fired—that I've believed for some time, of course—but I really didn't think that the altar called for blood until today. Bush is not in an easy position to fire Donald Rumsfeld. Were he the strong central executive that he paints himself to be, he'd sit everyone down and say, "Look, the people who read my newspapers for me are saying that Iraq is taking me down with it. Hate to do this, but I have to let one of you go—you're going to take some blame for Iraq, I'm going to tell America that I'm cleaning house, I've got a bold new plan, I'm going to really clean up over the next 4 years. Because if I don't do something, I'm out of a job. Now Condi, fire up the SNES. I get the blue controller, damnit, I'm President." Etc. But how can Bush fire Rumsfeld, who has more knowledge of/authority over the war in Iraq than Bush? How can Bush fire Rumsfeld without admitting a drastic mistake, his apparent first since took office? Then again, how can Bush not fire Rumsfeld? Etc.

Whatever—it's all sort of academic since the nation's going to hell. The nation's "finest Secretary of Defense" authorizing sexual humiliation? Does no one realize that the Geneva Conventions exist as much to protect our soldiers as they do are enemies?

Posted by Kriston at May 16, 2004 7:29 PM
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The troops like Rumsfeld. The brass in the pentagon and the military industrial complex have always hated him. Can he lead? That's the only question that is relevant, IMHO.--s

Posted by: J.Scott Barnard at May 17, 2004 10:34 AM

Scott... ?

From the Post: "Some officers say the place to begin restructuring U.S. policy is by ousting Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, whom they see as responsible for a series of strategic and tactical blunders over the past year. Several of those interviewed said a profound anger is building within the Army at Rumsfeld and those around him."

As I'm sure you're aware, the Army Times called for his resignation.

From a NY Post piece by Ralph Peters: "'m privileged to spend a good bit of time with our military officers, from generals to new lieutenants. And I have never seen such distrust of a public official in the senior ranks. Not even of Bill Clinton. Rumsfeld & Co. have trashed our ground forces every way they could. Only the quality of those in uniform saved us from a debacle in Iraq."

I suspect the troops would dislike any SecDef who extends their rotations, but I think the animosity like goes beyond that. Being put in a law-enforcement role cannot sit well with soldiers. It's an incredibly difficult and dangerous function for the military to perform. I'd be very surprised if the average soldier had a very rosy view of Rumsfeld these days.

Posted by: tom at May 17, 2004 11:07 AM

my brother (navy rotc) says rumsfeld should absolutely step down; he has several friends who are currently serving both in and out of iraq who agree.

i think it's more about proving to the people of iraq that we hold ourselves to the absolute highest morals than if rummy's a nice guy or not.

Posted by: catherine at May 17, 2004 11:22 AM
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