My conservative friends, critics of Kerry—why are you listeing to this shit?
Several Vietnam veterans are calling for an assistant district attorney to resign after questions were raised about his statement in a recent ad criticizing Democrat John Kerry's military service.If you've been sympathetic to these guys, I don't think anyone will begrudge you the decision to recast your opinion with some good, American skepticism. French now stands to be in real trouble, and depending on Oregon's bar regulations, he could very well be disbarred.Alfred French of the Clackamas County district attorney's office appears in the ad sponsored by the group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. In the spot, French says: "I served with John Kerry. ... He is lying about his record."
A group of Vietnam veterans who protested outside the county courthouse Monday said French implied he had firsthand knowledge of Kerry's war actions when in fact he had heard about what Kerry did from friends.
In an interview with The Oregonian newspaper last week, French said he relied on the accounts of three other veterans in making the statement about Kerry and did not personally witness the events. French did not return two messages left at his office Monday.
"As a senior assistant district attorney, you know as well as we do that that kind of ridiculous statement would never pass muster in a court of law," veteran Terry Kirsch said of French's account.
"We question your fitness to serve as an enforcer of the law after swearing to facts in a legal affidavit that you do not know to be true," he said.
Before recording the ad, French signed an affidavit that said: "I am able to swear, as I do hereby swear, that all facts and statements contained in this affidavit are true and correct and within my personal knowledge and belief."
I'll have more later—this is one of those topics I'd love to laugh off, or say that I've hit my saturation point (I have) and just won't deal with it any more (I don't want to), but it's important (to me) to dig in and hash this stuff out. Important to me, even if it makes for bad reading and typical rhetoric, because it just makes me sick.
For what it's worth, I think we SBVT skeptics are better off referring to these guys by name and as individuals only. Alfred French admits that he is a liar, but as Bob Dole says, it's easier for French to blunt criticisms under the monolithic cape of a team name (i.e., "see, SBVT are liars"). So: Alfred French is a liar and his statements are not credible. That's one more down.
Posted by Kriston at August 24, 2004 5:24 PMAs for naming them, I leave out the "for Truth" part, simply referring to the "Swift Boat ads" since there's no truth to them. Joe Conason had a nice version when he called them the "Smear Boat Veterans for Bush."
Posted by: Dimmy Karras at August 24, 2004 9:09 PM"Liars!"
That's the best you can do to refute the actual charges...
Posted by: j.scott barnard at August 25, 2004 8:34 AMSince you're picking off these guys one by one when you think they've lied and now that Kerry's retracted statements refuted by two of their allegations (He Lied!), shouldn't you say he's "one more down."? Based on your own criteria, Kerry shouldn't be trusted or listened to. All of these veterans have years of pent up frustration against Kerry after hearing him "smear" them when they came back from the war. And now you want to question their service to the country and call them all liars?
Posted by: j.scott barnard at August 25, 2004 8:42 AMKeep writing. Don't laugh it off--that's exactly what the Swift Boat Phonies want--for us all to turn away, as if we suspect they're right. Vietnam gave us Nixon, the despicable. Let's not let it give us another four years of this illegitimate creep.
Posted by: Kulturkritik at August 25, 2004 12:39 PMVietnam gave us Nixon, the despicable. Let's not let it give us another four years of this illegitimate creep.
Uh...Nixon, for all his many faults, got us *out* of the war in Vietnam. LBJ and JFK were largely responsible for getting us bogged down in Vietnam.
Posted by: BTD Greg at August 25, 2004 3:31 PMI notice you put quotes around the word "smear" J. Scott.
Posted by: Dan at August 25, 2004 7:17 PMI didn't say "Nixon gave us Vietnam," I said Vietnam gave us Nixon. All the infighting among Democrats in '68 split and disillusioned the party, resulting in a win for Nixon.
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